the benghazi controversy. what can we expect? susan estrich, a professor of political signs at usc, does it matter that john kerry was not the president's first choice? >> it doesn't matter at all. the issue with kerry from the get-go was not confidential or qualifications, not loyalty to president obama after all. he endorsed him in the primaries, the issue was a guy named scott brown, who is a former republican senators from massachusetts, narrowly lost his race to elizabeth warren and now what we'll have, there will be a temporary appointment and a special election in massachusetts. and, scott brown, notwithstanding my home state is democrat, is leading all the democrats, and the issue with kerry, it would cost a democratic seat, likely in the senate. >> rick: i want to go back to the idea the president badly wanted sutures rice to be the next secretary of state and made no secret about it and she had to go and withdraw her name from consideration. now, assuming john kerry wins confirmation, we'll talk about the process in a minute, does it matter if a secretary kerry is sitting down